Rafi and Yodeling
This article is by Pradeep.
In few of the comments that I read on this site, it seems many esp. Kishore Kumar fans are unaware about Rafi Sahab’s yodeling. Kishore Da is popular with this style of singing and probably due to this reason, Rafi Sahab didnt bother to make it his trademark. For a singer of Rafi Sahab’s caliber, yodeling was not much of a deal.Lets look into couple of songs where Rafi Sahab has yodeled.
First song that I get reminded of is from Feroze Khan starrer Reporter Raju. This movie was released in 1962. The Song is O Chale Ho Kahan Kaho? I love these lines Akal Se Kaam Lo, Zara Aaraam Lo, Nazuk Ho Thak Jaavoge and Rafi Sahab’s expression in these lines. Its got a very catchy tune by S.Mohindar and fun loving lyrics by Anand Bakshi.
Listen to O Chale Ho Kahan Kaho.
Next comes a rare number from Doctor Z. How many of you have heard this 1959 movie? Here is another comical number Hello Sweety Seventeen with Asha Bhonsle. Music given by Manohar and lyrics by Akhtar Romani.
Listen to Hello Sweety Seventeen.
Another song from Agra Road, 1957 movie in which we can hear Rafi Sahab yodeling. Music by Roshan and lyrics by Prem Dhavan. This is a duet with Geeta Dutt and chorus. The song is Unse Rippie Tippie Hogayi.
Listen to Unse Rippie Tippie Hogayi.
His Yodeling skills are not just limited to Hindi. Here is one for Punjabi song with Dilraj Kaur. The song is Keno Saban Dein.
Listen to Keno Saban Dein.
Did you like these songs? Are you aware of any more where Rafi has yodeled? Let me know.
Yes the article says it all. Indeed Rafi Sahab was the first to yodel in songs sung in end 50s and beginning of 60s. However with his expertise he could sing songs of any genre and hence left yodelling business to Kishor Kumar Sahab.
RAFI IS THE BEST OF ALL TIME I AM 13 AND I KNOW THIS FACT !!!
RAFI RAFI RAFI OI OI OI!
MYK says:
Any ideas or comments from knowledgeable and experienced members like Sjh and Nair
Thanks myk for your generous comment. Your knowledge is also very impressive. Your comments are bold but true and truth hurts. Only people with clean minds and hearts can accept and face truth, hence well done.
I agree with you on all fronts. Just complimenting your discussion. I fail to understand why there is so much emphasis on KK. The golden era of music had great stalwarts like Talat, Mana, Hemant, Mukesh, Durrani and ofcourse the greatest force, Rafisaab. With all due respects KK’s contribution in the golden era is negligible.
These singers are the foundation of the true and pure glory of HFM, and lets not forget Saigal, Pankaj Mullick, SD Batish, all have made great contribution in the golden era.
Rafisaab not only ruled the golden era but created a foundation for other singers and other aspiring singers to follow and achive not only his benchmark as a singer but also as human being.
Rafisaab ruled and continues ti rule hearts of millions of true fans of music. His work is a testimony of his unmatched greatness.
He does not require to be promoted or crusaded for hence Rafi fans are in the envious position of being fans of the best ever in contrast to so called fans of others who have to use propoganda, hate and desperate promotion to prove the worth of their idols.
These crusaders do not realise that we regard all of them as fine singers and legends.
Thanks
I hope we can know and discuss more about these other legends.
Messi/ Pearl/Avi/Shankar/Bobby Mud…
You are an outright pervert, a psycho. Are you on drugs or desi daru. True face of sub human filth that represents KK colony.
Be careful otherwise I will come to Noida, blacken your face, make you sit on a donkey and parade you from Noida to Kandwa.
Admin ji…yeh kachra yahan he hatao, bahut ho chuka.
SJH,
Don’t worry about my english. Yeah, those are just some mistakes. Anyway, I will manage it.
Laugh at Bin Laden’s example ? yeah, I wanted to tell that unity doesn’t matter always, what
are you doing using this unity does matter. Yeah, I am too laughing at this example
because I am laughing at your posts also, you know same type of comedy.
I am absolutely fine, I was getting angry because of those posts where I saw those
comments, It’s natural as you are getting angry even when I don’t say anything foolish. I am
getting angry when I see bad things against someone. But you get angry when you see
somebody asking you to stop the bad things. That’s the difference.
Who suggested me to leave ? anyway, that’s not a solution to change the mindset of
some members here, please try for better solution.
As you asked in previous post, how many songs r.d. burman have sung, it is not the
quantity that I was talking about, it’s the genre of songs. You can’t expect everyone to
sing a particular song sung by someone as the way he/she sung, there will be some
difference. I think it’s clear to you.
The song “Tere mere beech” is not exactly based on Raag Sivaranjini, it’s based on
Mishra-Siviranjini, there is a slight difference between these two raagas. Anyway, that
doesn’t change your conclution because it’s a very good song composed by LP and sung
by Lata ji.
one request: please don’t tell anybody that you are a senior director, even if you say then
don’t ever tell them about your activities on this site including similar activities somewhere
else if you have been doing.
ADMIN,
Not only those people, many people around the globe. I chose that one to say why are
talking about unity ? if we use unity to do the bad, then what the hell are we doing ?
I am laughing, how could you use the term unity ? Feeling sorry for you. Don’t use this
term next time if unity is not used for positive purposes.
“if praising Rafi, underestimates Kishore in your thoughts”, please don’t repeat the same
I said praising Rafi is not what I don’t like, believe me I will feel good to praise Rafi
But some people on this site are not only prasing Rafi, they are humiliating Kishore also
I think that underestimates Kishore, if you still can’t agree then you are wilth them.
Just a minute, you want to know why did I say this article is biased ? you want to know ?
I said that because before reading that article I had read numerous articles and posts,
I thought the members of this side are intentionally doing this. No matter those examples
are true, I knew it earlier. But few members didn’t stop after writing articles they started
posting direct negative comments on Kishore, that compelled me to write such thing.
No need to use cd/bin/laden, that just an example. don’t go deep into it and make fun.
Your argument saying “look at yourself”, is true. I sincerely accept it. But this is also true
that this is just a reflection of many posts on site. You know, if you start I must continue
then you will continue, then I will. A chain reaction, but who is the starter ? not me at least.
“what is this rubbish” ? I didn’t say you are doing it. Here “you” is not referring to admin
I meant, I won’t say anything when someone praise Rafi, I will join them and do the same
But I won’t join that person when he says something bad, I will go against him.
About other posts, I will try to trace back and show you few posts.
1. Go here and read Roger’s post
http://www.yoodleeyoo.com/web/remembering-kishore-kumar-on-his-13th-death-anniversary.html
2. Go here and read KK colony
http://www.yoodleeyoo.com/bam-chika-bam-bam/kishore-kumar-the-kk-kolony.html
3. Go here and read what Monu and Roger said
http://www.yoodleeyoo.com/web/singing-semifinals-held-by-kishore-memorial-society.html
The above is just to prove that people come to KK’s forum too to do the dirty things
which few members said false, they said no one goes there and write bad.
Again about Rafi forum, you will find nemeorus posts in Rafi KK saga, True voice and
many posts
4. Go here and read what Ashwani and Shankar said, I didn’t go against them because they
didn’t say the bad about Rafi, when I saw for the first time I said against him, check my
posts, you will find one post againt him Ashwani.
http://www.mohdrafi.com/meri-awaaz-suno/true-voice-mohd-rafi.html/comment-page-1/#comments
5. Go to this and other threads as well, you will find the language used by Sagar,
Mohanflora and few others. There is a difference. You won’t find only praise and devotion
for Rafi you will find anti kishore posts at the same time. Which I believe a true Rafian can’t
do
There are many posts like this, I am not able to go back to all of them and give you links
Don’t you think a newcomer like me will take this site as anti kishore rather than rafi forum ?
This simply shows admins are silent, even they are not silent because the fight is still
going on. Now do not say “look at you”, what I am doing is the result of previous activities
and I am in fact trying to stop this nonsense business.
MYK,
I have been saying many times, I don’t have any problem in praising Rafi. I do the same
In fact, in my home my parents love Rafi, they love Kishore, Manna and many others at
that time. But they haven’t taught me to use the language for someone who I don’t like
When I see the dirty words here, I think I will have a problem.
it seems you have repeated the things, no need to give more points to prove the greatness
of Rafi, I already knew it and accepted it before I came to this site. I don’t want to read
the rest of your post because I have made myself clear. You do one thing, praise Rafi
just make sure nobody posts objectionable article where we can find direct comment on
somebody which is not even good enough to be posted.
That’s my humble request to all of you.
Messi
Messy,
Do you know what you are talking about ?. It seems as if you have little knowledge about HFM and Rafi in order to comment the way you are. Before commenting please expose yourself to knowledge about certain aspects and events. You think its too much praise for Rafi ?. Well he deserves all the praise in the world and if you look around there are millions of his fans and others doing the same thing, is there a problem ?. There is not enough praise one can give Rafi, if you don’t like it, I suggest you ignore it.
My comments on KK have nothing to do with me liking him or not, I am simply talking about his skills as a singer. You are bringing this whole like/hate equation into the picture when it doesn’t have anything to do with it. Because we have pointed out KK’s true qualities, you automatically conclude that we don’t like him ?. Are you trying to say that we should not differentiate between an apple and and orange when there is a clear difference, and just take it along and say both are great and both have the same taste when they clearly don’t ?. If Rafi was the more versatile, better singer, should we say KK was his equal when it clearly shows that it is not the truth ?. Honestly, this is hilarious, KK did have limitations, it does not mean he wasn’t a great singer, it means he can’t be compared to Rafi saab. You are clearly showing you cannot stand it when KK is talked about in that sense. Please come to light that KK was a good singer however he was not very versatile which is the truth and which has been proved judging from his vast repetoire throughout his career. When I mention this, I am not bringing the clouds down from the sky, I am mentioning what has already been proved by KK himself. If you want to imagine that he was as good as Rafi, and come out with far-fetched thoughts that he was in the same class as Rafi, you are free to do so, but we prefer dealing with reality.
You said it yourself, an MD can judge a singer’s calibre right ?. Ok, so in this case the Majority have mentioned Rafi to be the benchmark, so think about it, if a few mention otherwise will you ignore the Majority ?. It is universally accepted that Rafi is the greatest and he has no peers when it comes to singing. I think you need some history lessons. LoL and since you can’t seem to accept that the majority has viewed Rafi as the best, you bring up something out of the blue mentioning I like some MD’s more than others which is why I write their comments and not other MD comments…..give me a break please.
Yes, some people were jealous of Rafi’s talents because they could not come to terms that here was a man from Lahore who ruled HFM. If you cannot digest this, its fine, great to know your views though.
I don’t think you seem to know the greatness of Rafi which is why you hold KK in the same league. I like KK as a singer but there is absolutely no way in which he can be compared to Rafi. There is a clear difference which is why it is like holding a candle to the sun. LoL you are making it a joke by mentioning because you like both you see the greatness in both. Its fine to point out the greatness in both singers but if in the process you are coming out with false theories and statements that both were equal, when they were not, that is crossing the line.
Let me see if I can point out your thought process. I like Rahul Dravid but I also like Irfan Pathan as a batsman, there is a clear ability difference in the the two when it comes to batting, however I choose to ignore that and find the greatness in both of them, and put them both on an equal level in terms of batting even if one has scored more centuries, has a higher average and has more skill…..lol this is hilarious, that is what you are doing when comparing Rafi to KK. Rafi simply had much more skills, covered much more genres of singing, had much more vocal flexibility, and had a golden voice of variety, that it is impossible to compare any singer to him.
Atleast you accepted that Rafi is the benchmark which shows you are sane like the millions of people, fans, musicians, singers, MD’s etc. in the world out there.
The reason why I am in this discussion is because silly comparisons were being made between KK and Rafi. If you think that by saying the truth, we are showing hatred towards a particular artist, I have no answer for you except to go and further enhance yourself in the english language and understand what we are talking about.
Any ideas or comments from knowledgeable and experienced members like Sjh and Nair ?.
Messy,
>> Thanks for saying that. No, I am not jealous. Are you united ? united for what ? even
All-Qaida is united, Bin Laden’s men are united. What are they doing ? it doesn’t matter
whether you are united or not, what are you doing when you are united does matter.
Sad, you seem only those people? In India we are united. What about your country?
>> Other people have done very good things writing saveral things, but you have ignored their bad things. I hope you you know what the
bad thing is ? before you write one more post saying a big no, I will tell you writing bad things about Kishore is their bad thing which they use everytime and they think this
broadens the Image of Rafi Sahab. This is a shame which you have ignored.
Like I said earlier, if praising Rafi, underestimates Kishore in your thoughts then yes, that nonsensical and ludicrous attempt we’ve done. See here I do again: I love Rafi. Rafi is the best singer. What will you do now? run a `cd \bin\laden`?
>> Yes, as I said before Rafi is the best singer, i myself think the same. 100% of internet articles will say that. 100% of true Rafians won’t use words that have been used on this site also on kishore kumar site. So, it’s clear people here are so called Rafians who shout and write filthy things and they say they admire Rafi ? hell, this is nothing but hypocrisy.
torisu articles torisu. Please show me the articles where we have mocked multifaceted genious Kishore da? That is because we provided Rafi singing yoodleeyoo, you say this article is biased. If we play classical songs of Rafi, are we undermining the geniuses of legendary classical singers. Reminds me of the wondrous alaaps in Hamko Tumhare Ishq Ne Kya Kya Banadiya. Got to listen to this now.
>> You haven’t said not to write against Rafi ? Oops ! you must have done that first, anyway I didn’t say that you have warned not to write against Rafi, I said being an admin, being a person who have created these beautiful sites you must ask the members not write the bad things againt anybody.
Rajnithi mein bharati kyon nahin hojaate?
>> Don’t put me in the same list because I have never said anything against anybody.
Haan.. Pathar ki lakeer. Ayya Shapath.
>> So, I think your silence have encouraging people to write against other singers and praise only Rafi ( But not Kishore ). Don’t you think this is true ?
I can’t force anybody to say anything. If they like Rafi, they like Rafi, if you like Kishore, you like Kishore. I can’t hold a gun on their head and ask them to say Kishoredian’s chalisa. See again I don’t do a cd\bin\laden.
>> I am talking about those people who directly use filthy language when they talk about Kishore, I think directly or indirectly you are encouraging them.
Show me those please.
>> Yes, you have stated not use filthy language, I agree. But why is this process still going on ?
Look at yourself, you will get the answer.
>> Nobody takes it as anti kishore when you say Rafi is the best singer, I don’t. I do when you use the same rubbish against Kishore that’s ofcourse anti kishore. Accept this at least if you are generous.
What rubbish are you referring here? I am not saying you are speaking rubbish. Its a question: what is this rubbish? show me please.
Admin says:
Thank you SJH. Its only because all all Rafi’s loyal fans that this site is successful
Thank you very much Admin, it is all my pleasure and thank you all great Rafi fans.
Messy
This is what members feel about my posts.
You are angry, very angry , breathing fire…..you only have yourself to to be blamed for it.
You seriously need some English lessons, I am serious, no jokes. You are completely confusing yourself, its not about your spellings, its about your complete failure to understand English language.
It seems others are reading something else and you something else in the same post. I belive you are still in school, trying hard to pass in English.
Seek help from others why are proficient in the language or if you can afford hire an interpretor. Also when you get married, do not print your card in English or you may never reach your wedding venue.
Man I am really scared of you when you state “Do not dare to call youself a rafian”, seriously man I am shivering. It seems you are a hothead. And your example about Bin…. L….could also make a corpse laugh….you are completeley out of your mind.
Control your anger, join an anger mangement course. I am serious, please take care of yourself.
Oh Lord, whats the point of giving you so many useful tips as you will read and understand something else by the time this post comes though to you.
Seriously take the exit strategy as suggested by another member. If you need any help do not hesitate to contact me.
Admin,
Thanks for saying that. No, I am not jealous. Are you united ? united for what ? even
All-Qaida is united, Bin Laden’s men are united. What are they doing ? it doesn’t matter
whether you are united or not, what are you doing when you are united does matter.
Good thing ? I have never done, if you think coming here or reading articles of the both
sites is a good thing then I have done that. Other people have done very good things
writing saveral things, but you have ignored their bad things. I hope you you know what the
bad thing is ? before you write one more post saying a big no, I will tell you writing bad
things about Kishore is their bad thing which they use everytime and they think this
broadens the Image of Rafi Sahab. This is a shame which you have ignored.
Yes, as I said before Rafi is the best singer, i myself think the same. 100% of internet
articles will say that. 100% of true Rafians won’t use words that have been used on this
site also on kishore kumar site. So, it’s clear people here are so called Rafians who shout
and write filthy things and they say they admire Rafi ? hell, this is nothing but hypocrisy.
You haven’t said not to write against Rafi ? Oops ! you must have done that first, anyway
I didn’t say that you have warned not to write against Rafi, I said being an admin, being a
person who have created these beautiful sites you must ask the members not write the
bad things againt anybody. Which even if you did, then the posts are still here and the
people doing the same thing. Don’t put me in the same list because I have never said
anything against anybody. So, I think your silence have encouraging people to write
against other singers and praise only Rafi ( But not Kishore ). Don’t you think this is true ?
I am not talking about Kishore fans who say Kishore is best or Mukesh fans who say
Mukesh is the best or Rafi fans who say Rafi is the best. I am talking about those people
who directly use filthy language when they talk about Kishore, I think directly or indirectly
you are encouraging them.
Yes, you have stated not use filthy language, I agree. But why is this process still going on ?
The posts are there in their place and people come and write the same. Go to the Kishore
Forum, you will see a post “all the names are kishore kumar”. That’s why I said do not say
something you do not mean.
Nobody takes it as anti kishore when you say Rafi is the best singer, I don’t. I do when you
use the same rubbish against Kishore that’s ofcourse anti kishore. Accept this at least if
you are generous.
Dear Sjh,
Thanks for showing the language mistakes. I have seen them, but don’t worry they
because of my typing mistakes. Somewhere I have written something which is wrong
When I checked back I found them wrong. Just typing mistake which you also probably
do sometimes. But do not bother, you will definitely understand what I write.
Distasteful when I say this is anti kk ? wow ! then imagine how much distasteful it would
be when others see your posts. You haven’t learnt to accept your fault. You have been
doing too much, this is true and accept it. All the Rafians must be congradulated for
their openmindedness and respect other singers ? are you gracing the singers because
you recpect them ? in admin’s language: have some sane, some shame.
Do not dare to call youself a rafian, it just doesn’t suit you.
Messi
Thank you SJH. Its only because all all Rafi’s loyal fans that this site is successful 🙂
Dear Admin
I went through the archives and it is great to read such wealth of information. Congratulations for doing a great job.
It is distasteful to read a messy post here about lies and rubbish that this site is anti kk. If at all Rafians must be congratulated for their openmindedness and respect for all other singers.
The only rotten posts that use the speace of this site are by self appointed crusaders whose English could make my watchman appear as Shakespeare.
If these notorious imposters do not have an iota of decency for thanking the admin for accomodating them, then why don’t they take their sorry self out of here. This site is for decent people who appreciate this invaluable facility that is available to all.